The jury handed down a guilty verdict on all counts yesterday to Ted Stevens, who had urged a speedy trial in order to beat the election cycle. What struck me in the case was this Taped phone conversation of Senator Ted Stevens from two years ago demonstrating the cockiness with which he viewed the whole situation, even while assuming he was under FBI wiretap & talking to the main codefendant & witness in any potential trial:
STEVENS: So, but it, you know, it doesn’t make any difference. Hell, I don’t care what they ..(inaudible) I’d say the same thing I said if they were sitting here right in front of us. I’m not going to let these guys get us in a position where they can charge us with something just because we didn’t do what they think we should do. They, they’ve got to go out make the case that we did something that, that is against the law. I don’t think we have violated the law.
ALLEN: I don’t think we have either, Ted. But, uh, you know, I, I – that lawyer has grilled me and grilled me on what they think they can do. He talks to them, I don’t.
STEVENS: That’s, that’s the way it should be. But as a practical matter, the question is, what can they convince the jury, uh grand jury, to charge us with. That’s the problem. But when I was a district attorney, I, I handled grand juries, lots of them. They’re funny people, but they also are people from within the community. And your reputation and everything else comes into into this play, as far as grand juries are concerned. But I think, really, when you look at it. We ought to just cool it. I told Ben the same thing: just cool it, you know, go about our business and smile and have a happy face. You ought to get out and meet people and do things. Do the things you used to do and just keep going. If it’s a violation of the elections law, that’s a corporate violation. This thing, it shouldn’t, it shouldn’t get to your mind, old buddy.
ALLEN: Well it has been, I’ll tell you.
STEVENS: Well but, you got to, you got to just stand back and say what’s going to happen when it’s all over. You got to get a mental attitude that these guys can’t really hurt us. You know, they’re not going shoot us. It’s not Iraq. What the hell? The worst that can be done, the worst that can happen to us is we round up a bunch of legal fees and, and might lose and we might have to pay a fine, might have to serve a little time in jail. I hope to Christ it never gets to that, but, and I don’t think it will. But I don’t, I’m developing the attitude that I don’t think I did anything wrong so I’m going to go right through my life and keep doing what I think is right.
ALLEN: Well, when this, when this grand jury is over, where are you going to be?
STEVENS: Grand juries meet about two or three days a month, Bill. They’ll finish and then they’ll go up and think about stuff and ask people to get more information on this or that and then they’ll come back in about a month to five weeks. So it’s not going to be over. They last about, their term is about 18 months.
ALLEN: Shit.
STEVENS: I’m going back to Washington on the 25th.
ALLEN: What is today?
STEVENS: The 19th.
ALLEN: 19th. .
STEVENS: I’m going to Seward, then I’m going to Valdez, then I’m going to Fairbanks, going to Barrow, and come back here and then leave the state.
ALLEN: OK.
STEVENS: But we ought to get together some time, when we can …
ALLEN: Yeah, we really should, Ted. And just between me and you – we’re not going, we’re not going to do anything, Justice, but I’ve got more information, maybe, maybe, than you got. You know, uh, and …
STEVENS: That’s probably true. But we’ll, we’ll get to the point where we have share information. Right now, let’s not, let’s not hasten, you know, this thing along and make it look like we’re trying to stop them at the pass. I’m not afraid of them at all.
ALLEN: I know you’re not. Uh, well, there is, there is things that I need to tell you. But, but uh, you know, I can’t do it over the phone.
STEVENS: If there’s some things you need to tell me, tell your lawyers to tell my lawyers. Bill Phillips in Washington’s my lawyer.
ALLEN: Is he? OK, well. How…I think I got all your cell phones and all that, so.
STEVENS: Well you, anything gets really serious, give me a call. Lets not try to share information that they don’t have.
ALLEN: OK.
STEVENS: That, that would be obstruction of justice…
If elected & not sentenced to jail time, odds are he’ll stay in that Senate seat for the rest of his life.